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		<title>By: Advertlets Losing Out To Nuffnang AGAIN!?!? at TenthOfMarch.com</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthofmarch.com/2007/05/04/advertlets-losing-out-to-nuffnang/comment-page-1/#comment-1465</link>
		<dc:creator>Advertlets Losing Out To Nuffnang AGAIN!?!? at TenthOfMarch.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on, Advertlets seems to be losing out to Nuffnang when it comes to attracting new publishers. This morning, I received an email from an anonymous [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nuffnang Vs Advertlets At Its Ugliest Battle at TenthOfMarch.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuffnang Vs Advertlets At Its Ugliest Battle at TenthOfMarch.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I published a post sharing my thoughts on why I felt Advertlets is losing out to Nuffnang, he came in to defend Advertlets and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Advertlets Riddle: Main Dish (Final) at TenthOfMarch.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Advertlets Riddle: Main Dish (Final) at TenthOfMarch.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 09:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] received a comment from reaymond in one of my previous posts. If you have read the comments left by &#8220;some aliens&#8221; (exist [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Advertlets Riddle: A Curtain Raiser at TenthOfMarch.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Advertlets Riddle: A Curtain Raiser at TenthOfMarch.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who reaymond is? &#8220;He&#8221; left a comment in my blog 3 days ago. His comment was filled with some &#8220;serious research work&#8221;. My [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A &#8220;Guaranteed&#8221; Method To Get An Ad From Advertlets at TenthOfMarch.com</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthofmarch.com/2007/05/04/advertlets-losing-out-to-nuffnang/comment-page-1/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>A &#8220;Guaranteed&#8221; Method To Get An Ad From Advertlets at TenthOfMarch.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 05:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see an ad served to you almost immediately. Desperate situation requires desperate action. I guess my initial speculation might be true after all. Their &#8220;tactic&#8221; of serving ads to publishers who rant about not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] see an ad served to you almost immediately. Desperate situation requires desperate action. I guess my initial speculation might be true after all. Their &#8220;tactic&#8221; of serving ads to publishers who rant about not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TenthOfMarch</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthofmarch.com/2007/05/04/advertlets-losing-out-to-nuffnang/comment-page-1/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>TenthOfMarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 21:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@reaymond&lt;/strong&gt;
Wow! Looks like you have done some serious research. Ahhh, I was finding for one of the quotes you provided. I remembered reading it some place before, but I don&#039;t remember where. I wanted to use it for my post but, nevermind. Some of the quotes you mentioned should have been there all this while (I think). They have updated some of their information lately, I&#039;m not sure.

Things are sure heating up. I like the amount of informations that you&#039;ve pointed out. I&#039;m sure your other posts are great as well. You didn&#039;t leave your blog URL. Where&#039;s your blog? If you don&#039;t want to disclose it here, you can send the URL to me through my contact form. I&#039;d really like to take a look at your other posts :-) .

&lt;strong&gt;@Eric&lt;/strong&gt;
LOL! Very very true. If it&#039;s possible, I want to cash out whatever amount there is -- RM5 also I want to take first :-) However, companies set a minimum payout (eg. RM100) for a few reasons.

Firstly, they don&#039;t need to write so many cheques every month. Imagine writing cheques that are RM15.05. &quot;Waste&quot; right? Secondly, they are just &quot;crediting&quot; the money (numbers) into their publisher&#039;s account -- no actual money transfered. That means, publishers are happy (seeing the number in the account), while they haven&#039;t reduced a single cent from their own account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@reaymond</strong><br />
Wow! Looks like you have done some serious research. Ahhh, I was finding for one of the quotes you provided. I remembered reading it some place before, but I don&#8217;t remember where. I wanted to use it for my post but, nevermind. Some of the quotes you mentioned should have been there all this while (I think). They have updated some of their information lately, I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
<p>Things are sure heating up. I like the amount of informations that you&#8217;ve pointed out. I&#8217;m sure your other posts are great as well. You didn&#8217;t leave your blog URL. Where&#8217;s your blog? If you don&#8217;t want to disclose it here, you can send the URL to me through my contact form. I&#8217;d really like to take a look at your other posts <img src='http://www.tenthofmarch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p><strong>@Eric</strong><br />
LOL! Very very true. If it&#8217;s possible, I want to cash out whatever amount there is &#8212; RM5 also I want to take first <img src='http://www.tenthofmarch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  However, companies set a minimum payout (eg. RM100) for a few reasons.</p>
<p>Firstly, they don&#8217;t need to write so many cheques every month. Imagine writing cheques that are RM15.05. &#8220;Waste&#8221; right? Secondly, they are just &#8220;crediting&#8221; the money (numbers) into their publisher&#8217;s account &#8212; no actual money transfered. That means, publishers are happy (seeing the number in the account), while they haven&#8217;t reduced a single cent from their own account.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthofmarch.com/2007/05/04/advertlets-losing-out-to-nuffnang/comment-page-1/#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 18:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I have read your previous article related to this topic as well. To me, RM200 really is a quite big amount of min. payout, bloggers like us more expect to receive the lower min payout and shorter time for payment. Right? If it is possible, we hope to get the money immediately without delay &quot;tim&quot;. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I have read your previous article related to this topic as well. To me, RM200 really is a quite big amount of min. payout, bloggers like us more expect to receive the lower min payout and shorter time for payment. Right? If it is possible, we hope to get the money immediately without delay &#8220;tim&#8221;. lol</p>
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		<title>By: reaymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>reaymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 08:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi TenthOfMarch,

I&#039;ve been scrutinizing both sides, and it seems that the earnings are pretty much similiar. From what I&#039;ve seen, Nuffnang does it through having more ads, and if I&#039;m not mistaken Adverlets charges a premium for &quot;local only&quot; advertising. You can read in detail at a comment I left at Mossism:

http://www.mossism.net/wp/index.php/does-nuffnang-show-the-money/#comments

I think Advertlets might have had a point in making their initial limit of 100 visits (although they might have miffed some of the lower traffic bloggers by doing so). Maybe they are targeting the higher traffic bloggers initially for their first round/format? Found these deep within the FAQ section of their website:

&quot;We have found through our calculations that CPM (cost per metric) advertising does not work well for low traffic blogs, and results in very small earnings, meaning it could take many months before you can actually cash out.&quot;

&quot;We are also launching new ad formats that will work well for low traffic bloggers.&quot;

&quot;We do not intend to be elitist, however, neither do we want to give low traffic bloggers unrealistic expectations of income.&quot;

Was this disclaimer always there btw? Or was it added in recently? 

I really wonder what Adverlets new ad formats are though, as its most likely a CPC (per click) thing for it to work without high traffic. Or maybe its further targeting options? Or will they copy Nuffnang&#039;s &quot;unique visitor&quot; calculation method?

Well, one interesting thing to see is that competition is going to heat up further between the two over the next few weeks...now that they both have closer minimum requirements!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi TenthOfMarch,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been scrutinizing both sides, and it seems that the earnings are pretty much similiar. From what I&#8217;ve seen, Nuffnang does it through having more ads, and if I&#8217;m not mistaken Adverlets charges a premium for &#8220;local only&#8221; advertising. You can read in detail at a comment I left at Mossism:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mossism.net/wp/index.php/does-nuffnang-show-the-money/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.mossism.net/wp/index.php/does-nuffnang-show-the-money/#comments</a></p>
<p>I think Advertlets might have had a point in making their initial limit of 100 visits (although they might have miffed some of the lower traffic bloggers by doing so). Maybe they are targeting the higher traffic bloggers initially for their first round/format? Found these deep within the FAQ section of their website:</p>
<p>&#8220;We have found through our calculations that CPM (cost per metric) advertising does not work well for low traffic blogs, and results in very small earnings, meaning it could take many months before you can actually cash out.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We are also launching new ad formats that will work well for low traffic bloggers.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We do not intend to be elitist, however, neither do we want to give low traffic bloggers unrealistic expectations of income.&#8221;</p>
<p>Was this disclaimer always there btw? Or was it added in recently? </p>
<p>I really wonder what Adverlets new ad formats are though, as its most likely a CPC (per click) thing for it to work without high traffic. Or maybe its further targeting options? Or will they copy Nuffnang&#8217;s &#8220;unique visitor&#8221; calculation method?</p>
<p>Well, one interesting thing to see is that competition is going to heat up further between the two over the next few weeks&#8230;now that they both have closer minimum requirements!</p>
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		<title>By: TenthOfMarch</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthofmarch.com/2007/05/04/advertlets-losing-out-to-nuffnang/comment-page-1/#comment-443</link>
		<dc:creator>TenthOfMarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 07:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Freethinker&lt;/strong&gt;
I&#039;ve read a couple of those too. However, such an event (blogs not getting adverts) cannot be avoided. Both of them are still new. Things will be better after they have secured more trust in potential advertisers.

&lt;strong&gt;@Eric&lt;/strong&gt;
I fully support their decision as well. In fact, in one of my reviews I asked them to reduce the minimum payout from RM200 to RM100. But they didn&#039;t and gave the &lt;strike&gt;excuse&lt;/strike&gt; reason that their publishers earn faster. But, I don&#039;t see any of their publishers complaining. Maybe they just don&#039;t care?

&lt;strong&gt;@mooiness&lt;/strong&gt;
Yes, the consumers always win. But they should have done this at the beginning. Defeats their whole &quot;ideology&quot; of small-time bloggers like me are &quot;worth-less&quot; in blog advertising.

&lt;strong&gt;@aw&lt;/strong&gt;
No -- the &lt;strong&gt;STUPID&lt;/strong&gt; chart is still there. They have updated it though. I have never liked the chart, nor the idea of &quot;challenge the chart&quot;. Their approach is to write whatever they &quot;think&quot; is correct, and ask people to challenge it. If the &quot;challenger&quot; brings up a point that proves the chart wrong, then only they change it.

They should in fact check the charts themselves to make sure it&#039;s 100% accurate and factual before publishing it. The &quot;false information&quot; that was published has already &quot;caused damage&quot; to an extend, and they didn&#039;t apologize or anything. I think that is &quot;dirty tactics&quot;. Shame on them.

&lt;strong&gt;@lilian&lt;/strong&gt;
Wahhh...you are making me &quot;jeles&quot;. I guess I&#039;ll need to work on my blog more. Hey, can keep some champagne for me? Or the bottle also good enough. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Freethinker</strong><br />
I&#8217;ve read a couple of those too. However, such an event (blogs not getting adverts) cannot be avoided. Both of them are still new. Things will be better after they have secured more trust in potential advertisers.</p>
<p><strong>@Eric</strong><br />
I fully support their decision as well. In fact, in one of my reviews I asked them to reduce the minimum payout from RM200 to RM100. But they didn&#8217;t and gave the <strike>excuse</strike> reason that their publishers earn faster. But, I don&#8217;t see any of their publishers complaining. Maybe they just don&#8217;t care?</p>
<p><strong>@mooiness</strong><br />
Yes, the consumers always win. But they should have done this at the beginning. Defeats their whole &#8220;ideology&#8221; of small-time bloggers like me are &#8220;worth-less&#8221; in blog advertising.</p>
<p><strong>@aw</strong><br />
No &#8212; the <strong>STUPID</strong> chart is still there. They have updated it though. I have never liked the chart, nor the idea of &#8220;challenge the chart&#8221;. Their approach is to write whatever they &#8220;think&#8221; is correct, and ask people to challenge it. If the &#8220;challenger&#8221; brings up a point that proves the chart wrong, then only they change it.</p>
<p>They should in fact check the charts themselves to make sure it&#8217;s 100% accurate and factual before publishing it. The &#8220;false information&#8221; that was published has already &#8220;caused damage&#8221; to an extend, and they didn&#8217;t apologize or anything. I think that is &#8220;dirty tactics&#8221;. Shame on them.</p>
<p><strong>@lilian</strong><br />
Wahhh&#8230;you are making me &#8220;jeles&#8221;. I guess I&#8217;ll need to work on my blog more. Hey, can keep some champagne for me? Or the bottle also good enough. <img src='http://www.tenthofmarch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lilian</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 05:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know and I don&#039;t care lah.  All I care is I made RM1K from nuffnang already.  Woohoo!  That&#039;s a month&#039;s  earning, btw.  From the first day they launched.  I got blogs from band 1 to band 25. *popping champagne*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know and I don&#8217;t care lah.  All I care is I made RM1K from nuffnang already.  Woohoo!  That&#8217;s a month&#8217;s  earning, btw.  From the first day they launched.  I got blogs from band 1 to band 25. *popping champagne*</p>
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